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I'd just finished taxing a couple of cars at Nottingham DVLA and thought I'd have a drive home on the way back to the dealership and have 30 minutes with my feet up. Just got in, put the kettle on and and issue 165 dropped on the mat. Peter, superb wrecker edition and lots of ideas. Howard, you asked for suggestions for your CP28 crew cab, I've already decided to build what I would have called a 'Special' when I was operational, it's going to be a rescue pump c/w hiab, based on a vehicle in one of the southern counties. Once again Peter, a superb issue.
Nick.
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Hi Peter,
this morning I received issue 165 of TMW. Wreck 'N'Roll ! This special recovery issue is my thing ! A lot of interesting articles about wrecker models and recovery trucks. Whether Erik Fontein's DAF, Anthony Caddy's Scania or Paul Findon's Emhar Oldie all superb models and of course all the other models built by modellers in ultimate perfection.
Great issue !!!
Klaus
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wow my truck is in this one! lol. Looks like another great issue, cant wait to get stuck in
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got mine this morning,one of my trucks is in there ,just going to settle down for a good read
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Definitely one of the best issues to date. Some fantastic models in there  Dead chuffed to see one of my articles - especially as it is the last issue I will be getting on subscription. Also think Peter hit the nail on the head with his words of wisdom about modellers block  Brian
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fantastic. love anything to do with recovery. models all superb. Howard i think the length of your slidebed looks about right. any shorter and you wouldnt comfortably fit a large 4x4 or saloon. brilliant issue, well worth the wait.
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not a bad issue,but some articles have been covered on the forum,plus a few to many full page ads for me.as usual howardcomes up trumps with a good slide bed.as for not sure of the length, well there was a black t cab scania 4x2 slideback at truckfest scotland last year,which had came from ireland
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got my issue not really a fan of recovery trucks but i liked the old daf
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Another special that doesn't light my fire but some good models, Howard as usual with a very nice build, always clean, crisp and professional looking. I liked the simple but effective little Bedford, just needed some signwriting to set it off for me, it was a bit Plain Jane without it.
I agree with Peter's comments, I've found it hard to concentrate on getting anything finished, since my wife's illness 18 months ago it seems time has been my downfall and although she is recovering well and I can now spend more time in my model/craft room I'm only picking at bits instead of getting fully into a project and tend to drift towards the PC (hence this).
I might need an intentional break from trucks whether its to try and reproduce a layout of my Grandfather's industrial engine works in 00 scale which I've wanted to do for a while or put one of the military subjects together I have, such as the 1/9th scale BMW motorbike and sidecar I've had for a few years now. This might give me a fresh taste as it would involve a bit of weathering and airbrushing. Making truck models does involve some preciseness in finish which might concentrate the mind too much at times.
I also find as Peter has about the level of skill dropping off slightly with age and eyesight when I last painted figures for my Spillers Bedford, the fine details aren't so easy to do anymore and no doubt younger modellers will come across this in time so make the most of things while you can. All in all I still want to model trucks and have some ideas to do so hopefully I'll be into it again soon. Cheers Nos.
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Like Howard, I like trucks that 'do things' so this was a welcome issue for me, not particularly because I like recovery trucks but the modelling of this type of vehicle, to me, is much more interesting than a tractor/fridge trailer type model. As Nos said, Howards' build is fabulous, doesn't look that complicated but boy is there some skill in that! Deserved a two part feature in my opinion with plans so we can all build a slidebed  Anyone wondering about 'weathering' - just look at the photo on the bottom of pages 10/11 of the rear and the dry brushing on the electrical sockets and the 'wear' on the edges of the side raves, simple but so well done. Don't know what happens to the printing, especially when the truck/ wheels are blue but both Anthony Caddys' BDV and Robin Greenhagh's F88 have strange contrast between the blue and any black areas like tyres? My main 'complaint' has been covered before and that is the lack of detail in some of the articles. I love to see nice models but what I really want is to learn from those builders. Again, Iknow Peter can only work with what he is given but for instance, Erik Fonteins' DAF has 6 short paragraphs, 3 describing the real truck and crane, one a very brief description of the resin cab, one for the chassis and 'The Garwood M543 crane is fully scrachbuilt' - that's it!!! In fact most of the articles are in a similar vein. Nos, glad your wife is getting better. I hope you get back to modelling soon, yours were some of the models that got me into this hobby. Oh, and Madmexican, how do you think the magazine would run without the adverts?? I may be sad but I actually like to read adverts in modelling magazines, amazing what you see.
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I do understand the point about lack of detail, but as Voyager says, I can only work with what contributors give me. I often ask for more detail, but its not always forthcoming.
Another point is that some of our overseas contributors don't speak/write very good English, therefore detail can be a bit sparse. There's a feature coming up soon on how to write for TMW so hopefully that might help future contributors.
Advertising is essential if any magazine is to survive and I know many readers find it useful
I wholeheartedly agree with Voyager's comments to Nos.
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As a modeller, it’s always a great honour to have one of your models in TMW. I’m very proud to have my Scania T580 wrecker on the cover page. Thank you Peter.
I can understand the point of lack of detail in articles. However, writing such an article is not as easy as it looks. As Peter already stipulated, there is the language problem for modellers like me, who don’t have English as a mother language. On the other hand, I find it difficult to find a good balance in an article between giving details and still have a story that doesn’t become boring to read.
However, good feedback and tips are always welcome. For specific questions about an issue or a model, there’s always this forum.
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Having written a few articles in my time (even had my own monthly page at one time), it can be difficult making an article interesting. The temptation is to say 'I stuck part a to part b, then fitted part c ETC and that would be boring, so I can understand why some people only write a basic description of what they have done. I think I get the same e-mails off Erik about his latest model as Peter does and I think Peter does a good job of turning a few words into an article.
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:d/ WoooHooo my artical is published..... ...lol sorry! Some lovely wrecker builds in the mag, nice job guys.  :d/
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Nice job Paul mate lol. Even if I have seen it before. Actually I enjoyed this issue, I do have a wrecker lurking on the horizon simply cos its summat I haven't done before. And there are some nice models there, difficult to pick a favourite. I do like the Peterbilt and Robins F88 but I think Pauls Bedford takes it. Quote:
My main 'complaint' has been covered before and that is the lack of detail in some of the articles. I love to see nice models but what I really want is to learn from those builders. Again, Iknow Peter can only work with what he is given but for instance, Erik Fonteins' DAF has 6 short paragraphs, 3 describing the real truck and crane, one a very brief description of the resin cab, one for the chassis and 'The Garwood M543 crane is fully scrachbuilt' - that's it!!! In fact most of the articles are in a similar vein.
I agree with this as people know, however good the models are in this issue, the most useful articles for other modellers are Howards and Dannys articles with under-construction photos. But as said elsewhere you can only work with what you get. I don't know the solution on this one unless you start serialising Klaus' superb wrecker build. You could run that for months.
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Serialising Klaus's wrecker build would send TMW to the grave. Why is this? well think how many issues it would cover 50+ then think of all those crapy mags you see on the telly, build your own wigwam in 99 monthly issues and get a free pole with issue 1. After issue 15 everyone is pissed off with it so they cease printing the rest of the issues and thats the end of it. There is no way you would get sick of the afore said article from Klaus, but would the evil serial mag chopper leave TMW alone or would he administer what seems to be serial print law and chop its goolies off.
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Obviously you edit it to a couple of pages and have it as just one part of the mag rather than include it to the exclusion of everything else. I would have thought that was obvious.
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[quote=steve foster]Serialising Klaus's wrecker build would send TMW to the grave.
Sorry, but that's nonsense. There's no 'evil serial mag chopper'. It's up to me as Editor to decide what to include. At some stage we will be featuring Klaus's model and it will obviously run over several issues, largely as a pictorial presentation with a minimum of text and as a normal part of the magazine. 50+ issues is very wide of the mark.
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I think people are missing my point here!
The MAN wrecker is so complex you could do three or four pages a month for years and I would enjoy everyone by the way.
I know there is no axe falling on TMW, it was just a bit of tongue and cheek fun at what normally happens with these special monthly mags, simply they get you hooked and stop producing half way through.
So maybe the evil serial mag chopper will sit this one out
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Ive just read mine. Some very good work in this months issue.
But is it not possible for contributers to show in one or the other.ie send your photos to peter and if its not required then put them up on the forum or vice a versa.How many times have I opened the mag to find a truck thats still at the top of the forum like that super detailed green magnum amongst others. And now we find out we are getting a series of the wrecker thats on here. I'm not saying its not worthy of putting in the mag obviously but come on we have all seen it. But imagine if it was the other way round you get the appitizer in the mag with the full build on here.
All we need is howard and co to tell us about future releases on here instead of in the mag. And i can see it becoming a victim of its own success and subs dropping off rapadly.
Apologies if this has been mentiond before. And keep up the good work. COOKIE
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